A Story Worth Sharing – Regardless of Your Personal Beliefs – Guest Post by Asilee Barnes

For centuries, African-American culture has been significantly influenced by the black church and the Christian faith. So being both black crand atheist can be a lonely and isolating experience for most. I’m a witness to how people can be so unforgiving towards atheists. My family, has given me until December, 2013 to find my son and I a place to stay as I cannot stay with her under her roof because I am an atheist. Things haven’t changed, I’m still jobless and December is coming in fast.

Take a look at this video that debates how black non-believers are treated in their communities. How the way they were raised affected them deeply

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjNNPf0PMQ8

  • Less than one-half of one percent of Blacks identify themselves as atheists.
  • 80% of Black Americans say religion is VERY IMPORTANT in their lives, compared to only 50% of U.S. adults. In fact 3/4ths of Black Americans who are unaffiliated with any particular faith say religion plays a somewhat important role in their lives. Over half report attending church service at least once a week, more than 75% report praying daily and almost all indicated that they are ABSOLUTELY certain that God exists.
  • Blacks are the most likely to interpret the Bible as the literal word of God; and 83% express a belief in angels and demons.
  • Blacks express a high degree of comfort with religion’s role in politics and half feel there have been too few expressions of faith by politicians.

Minority within a Minority

We are a minority with in a minority. I made the blog (blackatheists.wordpress.com) and then the Facebook page to get our voices heard, to help others who may feel that they’re alone. They’re not. We are here and we aren’t going anywhere. Seeing as I lost a cousin when she came out as an atheist. She resided in Georgia and was killed by her peers. The news articles and reports may have said it was because she was black, but I know better.

There has been a few mishaps with the Facebook page along the way, an admin was banned for 5 days due to an image he posted. I can’t remember exactly what the image was about and why it was banned by since then we have toned it down by an invisible standard based on what we feel is not going get us banned. I’m worried about the future of my page due to how easily it is for someone to report a page because there was something on that page that offended them and only them.

Black atheists have a hard time sharing their beliefs with family and friends because the struggle for civil rights was tied so close to Christianity. So blacks who reject god are accused of turning their backs on their history. Not believing in God is seen as a thing for white people. The idea that religious belief fueled the civil rights movement is not entirely true. It only true that churches were the only all-black refuge during Jim Crow. But the story that gets told is, Jesus delivered us. Frankly, it was humans who did all the work; against their will no less.

Why I Protect the Black Atheists Page

Why wouldn’t I?

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Don’t forget to join their page at: https://www.facebook.com/BlackAtheists?ref=br_tf

Author Bio: Asilee Barnes hails from Cleveland, Ohio, where she was born and raised. She is currently 25 years old, with a 2 year old son. She is also a gamer, blogger, IT specialist, and heathen.

Socially Responsible Reporting

The next post will be from a conservative group who would like to share their views on why their facebook fan pages are beneficial to others.

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No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Some people, some issues, just can’t be helped. Even further, I am entirely skeptical about whether or not they actually want to help so much as what-the-fuck-is-this-shit-3chest pound, scream around and in general, make a huge idiot of themselves. Let me tell you about my most recent experiences since that blog went so viral. I have been hounded, annoyed, berated, assaulted and been privy to the most incredible drama ever to be witnessed on Facebook, and I’ve watched full divorces hashed out there.

Since I wrote that blog, and then subsequently created this page because of all of the people asking for a place to discuss these issues, I have logged 71 hours (of my own, unpaid time) dealing with the following.

1. ) People who want to yell at ME about how they are such great activists and feel it is their civic duty to police everything from titties to beheadings on Facebook by reporting them.  They just want to let me know how wrong I am for telling them they shouldn’t.

a. ) Reminder to those folks. There are actually cyber watch groups that monitor these issues, often. What THEY do when they come across terrible content, beheadings, abuses of children and more, is they actually RESEARCH THOSE PEOPLE. They find out where they live, they send the police to their houses. So, just know this, sometimes your frenzied reports do very little but remove evidence. I am certainly not saying to NEVER report anything, but I am saying, if you aren’t willing to actually do something, maybe you should leave it for someone who will. Educate yourselves. Google, please teach me about cyber watch groups so I can actually do something about something terrible for once!

2. ) People who claim to want to do something for the greater good, but really all they want is for me to ‘ban this account, it’s hacking me. Remove this person’s account, they harass me’ Just so you know, I didn’t get this job because I was willing to take random claims at face value. I’m not your guard dog. When you join the group and randomly announce that you have been banned 2,122 times, I’m not going to automatically assume that 2,122 people are all wrong and you are the misunderstood shining light of civility. Get a grip.

b. ) As a matter of fact, when I look into your account issues and see that you are randomly starting shit on other pages, being a prick or just making a random nuisance of yourself, I will not only remove you from my group, but there will be a lot of pointing and laughing at your back when you go. Try not being a total douchebag and abusing your right to freedom of speech or thinking you are some mini-digital god that people should bow before, before you ask me for anything. I give not one tiny shit about your internet ego and how it affects the rate at which you are banned.

3. ) People that want to be famous. These are the weirdest group. I’ve had a lady ask me to do an interview for her indie news magazine and then beheadthosewhostolemymemetheinternetoffendsmeconfront me with insulting questions and accuse me of xenophobia. I’ve had a guy who runs around regularly on Facebook ranting like a fucking looney about people stealing pictures and then REFUSE an offer to join in a skype meeting where he could share his issues. His reason was that he didn’t like the way I talked to him about all of the previous drama he had caused. After he refused to the chance to help, he ran off proclaiming me fake and telling me to prove who I was. Dude, you’re an idiot. You had the chance to do that yourself, but you didn’t take it. So please shut the fuck up.  *FYI, I trust no one, and for plenty good reason.* The moment I removed him from the group for his batshittery, he immediately went to his public wall and outed me, tried to get me in trouble. Even had people email FB, to which they too, laughed and laughed. You can thank that guy if you’ve ever had creative commons issues on Facebook. It seems some people are only armchair activists and will absolutely refuse to stand up and speak for others when given the chance.

c. ) On another note, I *still* need someone willing to take on these issues.  I’d prefer you be someone who has ACTUALLY had this issue. I.E. someone who has had legitimate content they created all by themselves, or a photo they took all by themselves, stolen and used on another page without credit. If you are interested please inbox us on TIOM and please be a credible person so that your voice has no choice but to matter. I am still getting shit from my superiors about the ‘wanker I was about to send to them.”  CC issues will not get my time in the face of other things I deal with, but I will be 100% glad to assist you getting in touch with someone who is very much looking to hear more about the real problems, loss of income and etc that come from it. Don’t fail after fail guy, or I won’t make the offer again. I can’t. And don’t bother if you have a connection to the aforementioned wanker, I simply do not have another 71 hours to join you in your pathetic reindeer games.

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Don’t send me any necklaces smaller than this.

4. ) Gifters, sharers, money morons. For some reason, people seem to be working under the illusion that if they offer to ‘share my pages,  send me free keychains, babysit my dogs, or just in general offer something, that I will immediately drop everything and see to their issues. Things like, unban their 128th account, delete this random person’s account because they once sold them a bad car, or even, yes, “I’m just wondering if I can talk you into deleting my ex-boyfriends account.” No. You really can’t.

d. ) I’ve never asked for, want, desire, or need any gifts, money, or your undying love for doing something that I have clearly offered to do on principle. But I am here to help people who don’t regularly bust the TOS and are still banned, people who have the right to speak up, and don’t abuse the privileged, but are still paying for it. You can even ask the people I have helped regularly, one of the most common things they hear from me is “I appreciate you thanking me, but you don’t have to keep doing that. Please.” Ask any of them. I don’t even want thanks, much less fucking doodads or your money. Donate any money you want to give me to a responsible charity. Here is one of my favorites. Responsible Charity

And before I’m done, I won’t monitor or manage any more comments here. Feel free to leave them, but I can only manage magnificent levels of stupid on one platform at a time. Thanks to those people, I can’t take the time to filter through hundreds of comments that could only come from the world’s biggest sociopaths in order to find the voices of reason I’ve also seen there occasionally. Since I spend so much time on Facebook, (before that blog I actually avoided it when possible)  if you want to speak to someone, head to the TIOM page.  If it’s important, please inbox there. I don’t actually have time to read there, either. But I do have 3 great people who are dedicating their own time, bringing the issues that need help *regardless of whether or not they are issues I usually support* to my attention and in some cases to the group, so please don’t abuse them, either. There are a lot of people helping besides myself.

*A lot of questions about how FB job ops so I will post that ASAP I am given the correct link to supply for it.

An Open Letter to Facebook

I’ve had a lot of people with similar issues respond in many ways about this particular element of Facebook reporting since that one blog went so viral. I wanted to share.

Please feel free to make suggestions on any particular topics you would like to see a future blog about.

Unbunch Your Panties and Move On

Since some of you seem to lack basic comprehension on a few issues I thought I would clear them up.

“You’re doing this for the money! You want fame! “

I’m using a fake/pen name that I have used for years. I have the page attached to an anonymous facebook page (that I only added after this post ar130524093619122went so viral that thousands of people were messaging me asking for a place to help and discuss these issues). If I wanted to *make money* why wouldn’t I be filtering that to anyone willing to click to one of my business pages if I wanted recognition or money? I would if I was an idiot, I guess. I have tons of entertainment pages on Facebook, too. I’m not filtering to those either because I am *NOT* here to mention or promote a personal agenda but a human one. Which is why I have also refrained from discussing a lot of the side issues mentioned here.  I don’t have tons of money so just unbunch your panties right away. I give my money, time and skills to reputable charities and topics that I enjoy supporting. If you have time to rant here about how much I make instead of participating in adult discourse, it sounds like you may have some time to do some good, too. There are plenty of jobs and charitable ventures out there that don’t require you mingle with human beings.  Consider them.

I don’t even have my Twitter account attached to this. I haven’t even used my twitter account to share this freaking post because I do not *like* attention. The fact that some of you are focusing on me just shows that *YOU* do not want the attention on the right things. And your insistence on posting your personal agenda issues in the middle of obsessive rants does not make you an approachable person for your cause. Consider that as well.

The people I have communicated with so far on Facebook, also know me under this name. No one really knows who I am other than what I have allowed them to see and that isn’t going to change. Also, I am not going to be on the news, or take any interviews that will not remain anonymous. No one will ever see my face in relation to this and if need be, that page, this page, and any pages relevant to it will come down and all that will be left of it are the other pages that reblogged the content. (and any subsequent impressions)

Also, I had no idea, no control, over how far or wide this post was shared. You are causing that. If you don’t want to support an issue, it actually makes sense to not do so, even in a negative fashion. Try also to realize that every time you research me and click on a previous link I may have written, you are actually promoting it. Google can’t discern between happy or hate filled rage clicks, nor can Facebook. Consider it, even if it takes a while to wrap your narrow mind around it.

Lastly, if you look around here, you will find that the ONLY mentions I have made of anything specifically were the mentions of a few pages on Facebook *NONE of which are my own* that I brought attention to to highlight some of the pitiful examples of the injustices due to pure ignorance going on around FB.

“You make 30$ per hour! I don’t care about you and your problems so do your job!”

Way to continue to detract from the real issue. Again, you don’t even know me but I’d like to give you something to gauge your future comments by.

These panties are realllly tight on this rhino. No wonder it's yelling.

These panties are realllly tight on this rhino. No wonder it’s yelling.

While Facebook and tons of “reputable” marketing types will outsource their business to make mega money from cheap labor, I do not. I actually charge more than $30 per hour for the work I do for *myself*. When I say myself, I’d like you to know that I employ about 250 people who wouldn’t even have jobs if I hadn’t trained them, dedicated my time at no charge to them and paid out of my own pocket to build a CMS system to help them function through their jobs more easily. I have actually created over 250 jobs that didn’t exist before, since 2009, paid people proper wages regardless of their locations on earth, and offer health insurance to my employees. I make zero money from that venture but it keeps employed the additional 4 people that manage it. You?

And even worse, I don’t want to be congratulated for that either, and you won’t find me sharing any personal business names, businesses, URLs or anything remotely self promotional here. Because of all of your troll fuckery, I am actually doing what I can to separate my account from any business ventures because those people don’t want to or deserve to hear your shit, either. I actually work hard enough that I have no need to mingle these two things. I also have honor and simply wouldn’t. Some of you might have to look that word up. But nope, not even for an extra penny. Speaking of pennies, there isn’t even a single ad on this page. Should I start following these judgmental commenters links around and posting their blogs laden with ads so they can make a couple cents sharing their important ‘messages’? Keep it up and I will start if only to out another fine hypocrite. This site has received over 100K views today alone. I have to wonder how many here would have slapped up ads the first day the views went crazy.

Comments about stones and glass houses go here.

So please, take your pay scale ranting shit elsewhere and shut the fuck up.

“You are mean and you keep telling me to shut the fuck up!”

That’s life. Get over it. You can come here and make all of the assertions and misguided rants that you want, and I have every right on my own blog, imageson my own space on this here interwebs, to retort in any fashion I deem fit. If you don’t like my language, flee. I can’t help but wonder if this is all due to entire generations of people raised to think they are each the universes gift to human kind. I’ve got news for you, the world isn’t going to mold itself to fit your delicate sensibilities.

I can appreciate skepticism and will answer legitimate questions asked in an adult fashion, as thoroughly as I can. If I can’t, I will actually go in search of the proper answer and credit it whenever possible.Under the notion to remain transparent, I have even left up many of your snarky comments with questions I could answer. But when I answer them with proof that makes you wrong, you act like a child. Stop it. No! I said, NO!

I will not pretend to appreciate wild guesses lodged in the form of an accusations and if you don’t like cursing, too bad. Maybe I don’t like people who don’t curse. Shit, maybe I don’t even read comments that don’t curse at least once. Who fucking knows, right?

Also, I  guess it’s too much to ask you to:

  1.  Realize I don’t care if I spell anything wrong or that it bothers you.
  2.  Read the title of this blog
  3.  Understand sarcasm
  4.  Please comment here so I can ban you easier than going through the insane amount of comments on the other posts.
  5.  Please leave your name in the posts so the rest of us can nominate you for this years Darwin Awards before it’s too late.

“Why are you mentioning this? Please remove it!”

This will never be mentioned here again. This is not much more than a warning. I will not cater to any more bullshit. Bullshit posts will be removed, I will not spend .000009 seconds fact checking or dealing with those issues. You have Google, use it. This post will be emailed to whomever I ban from posting that wants to know “why their questions aren’t being answered’ or those who want me to spend my only free time debating reality with them.

Real Contributions – Thank You

Anyone else who wants to discuss the topics at hand. Please do, the real issues. I have gotten a LOT of great suggestions from you, many. I have thank youthem all listed and have shared some of them on the page, when I complete this list and spruce it up a bit (I’m getting some help, the response is overwhelming(that person is also hiding their identity because they also do not want to be famous)) I will post it here. I hope we can make some changes. I am GOING to use this blog to ask for help in doing so, until then, I very much do appreciate those who have been able to add value to this issue with their comments and suggestions.

Off to work and thanks to the genuinely concerned people who took the time to read the original blog.

An Overwhelming Response

I wanted to add this due to the overwhelming response and to avoid the need to retype this to so many who have offered to help. I have been amazed, but I also currently work about 16 hours per day on various jobs and I thought I’d just save some time by posting this once.

Token faith in humanity photo. (but really, this one is pretty good)

Token faith in humanity photo. (but really, this one is pretty good)

There are things you can do to help. However, openly sharing some of those things would cause a lot of trouble for me and others, and while I am overwhelmed by the kindnesses offered here, I simply cannot extend an invite to what I can best describe as closed quarters in my secret group on Facebook, to people I don’t know at all. No offense, but protecting me protects you as well.

However, I am not ignorant enough to turn down any offers for help. So I have created a page on Facebook, attached it to a widget on the right frame and here is a link to it directly. https://www.facebook.com/TheInternetOffendsMe?ref=tn_tnmn.

I’d love to have anyone there who wants to join. I’d also love to talk to someone about helping me to admin it. I am already adminning a total of about 20 pages for work, entertainment and of course, these issues, so if anyone has some time, is preferably on the East Coast, I would be super glad to talk to you on this page. For now, anyone that does have a page that receives harassment that isn’t in the group, please also join there and send an inbox message to the page and please share with me your page address so I can check it over and add you with my personal account, so I can get you added to the group.

Again, I can’t thank all of you enough for the amazing response. When I wrote that (actually about a month ago) it was my knee-jerk response to the horrible day I mentioned. Blowing off steam. I never expected it to matter to so many people in so many different ways. Thanks again for reading!

 

The Real Story Behind Facebook Moderation and Your Petty Reports

Imagine going to work every day and at the start of your day, with your first cup of coffee, you sit down to glance at beheadings, children in the process of being raped, human bodies in various stages of decomposition, the living and dead results of domestic violence, hanging bodies of 10 year old boys accused of being gay, real-life snuff films and bloody dog fighting rings and their subsequent results. Can you think up a human horror? I’ve probably seen it or a picture or video of something very similar. It’s fair to say that some of the people who work around me do not fare so well. Often they end up suffering from the endless barrage of horror they witness 8 to 12 hours per day. Did I share that *most* of these people make around a dollar per hour to do this job? That’s the truth. Not me though. I am an American who demands rights and all, so I make approximately $29 dollars per hour more than them. Technically, I don’t even have to do anymore than make sure they are clicking the buttons in the correct order. I don’t have to look at the images, but most of the time my focus on remaining unbiased in the face of, makes me do so anyway.

It’s Not All Blood and Guts, Sometimes it’s Worse

Not all of the information that Facebook moderators are privy to is as horrifying as the end results mention above, some are worse. The terror in facebook_2349612bthose is that they are the calls of those whose private horrors, abuse or murders are currently in process. True cries for help come from FB users every day, all day long. Facebook moderators spend a significant part of each workday forwarding ‘acts in progress’ to the authorities local to those accounts. When those accounts are legitimate (not ghosted or proxies) those reports can and do save people’s lives. That is probably the number one reason why many traumatized by the visual horrors still stick around.

Still no ‘love’ for the people who may have banned you once before? Try to understand that for the most part, your bannings are carried out by an automatic algorithm and only a very small percentage of them handled by an actual person. Why is this? While Facebook can boast that they have nearly 1.5 billion users this year, the impressive feat is that they have 1.2 billion active users who log in nearly every day. Each one of those people have a different level of what offends them.

Considering all of these things, I’d like to tell you what offends me. It offends me that nearly 80% of the manual reports I have to read are from people who find themselves offended by something. A recent list of offenses include: (Translated from the the poor excuses for grammar and spelling most of them arrive in)

  • “I don’t believe in this coin. It goes against what I believe in.”
  • “This fish doesn’t look like a fish, it looks like a man’s private parts, and I have small children around me during the day.”
  • “I saw this on my feed and I do not approve please take it off.”
  • “This page shared my picture without credit or permission.”
  • “Can you remove this picture I don’t like it.”
  • This is not true, my God would never let this happen.

Now, forgive me or not, but personally I can assure you of this. In the face of the actual reportable issues that come in at the rate of 250k per hour, I really don’t give a shit if coins offend you, or if you can’t keep your ass off Facebook while you babysit the neighborhood children. What I care about, what really, truly fucking offends me is the fact that after 5 hours of reading through your butthurt sob stories, I find the 7 year old girl who, too scared to tell an authority has figured out how to report a picture her uncle posted of her that was blatantly, obviously sexual, and begged for help. “He says he’s coming over today at 2. Can you please help me, I don’t know what to do.”

If You Think Your Biggest Problems on Facebook are Photos or Statuses that Offend You – You Have No Idea How Often I Eye Your Account for Deletion

Thanks to your delicate sensibilities, I didn’t get to read her report until it was 5 her time. Four hours ago I could have possibly prevented another one of her rapes. I could have had the police waiting for him when he arrived at her house. Four hours from now I’ll probably cry myself to sleep because I didn’t get to. Thanks again, to people who obviously need to stay the fuck off of the internet. Why did her report not come up faster? Because she’s seven, she reported the picture as a lesser offense that reported properly would have bumped it up the queue past all of your cries of visual injustice. Those pieces of ugliness that are top-o-the-queue every morning.

No. No it isn't.

No. No it isn’t.

Get over your narcissism.  Your shabby reasons behind reporting shit are not just offensive but harmful in many cases. When I was a kid, we didn’t have a way to communicate instantly with people all over the world. We didn’t have a friend on the other side of the earth who cared enough to call the police for us when we were in trouble. And yet so many of you are bent on warping the capabilities of social networking into a crying game at a level that cannot even be remotely handled by 100K + people working 8 to 12 hours a day. Technology gave you an open stage in front of the world and some of you have used it in the old pigeon shitting on the chessboard fashion. You should be ashamed, but as one of your moderators, I can clearly see you are not.

Before I go I want to share some of the most frequently asked questions:

“Can someone see my private messages?” Yes. “Even those pictures I….” Yes.

However, no one is sitting around getting their rocks off on your accounts inbox messages. The only times these are observed for any reason is when an account ID, *your facebook ID number* shows up repeatedly on reports that mention harassment or other issues that would require a mod to delve into to get the truth before banning or calling the police. It’s a requirement you should appreciate, trust me. If we didn’t, half of you would be in prison right now.

“Why did Facebook never respond to my report or my ban issue?”

I’ll be blunt here. Overtaxed system, automatic algo ignored you. OR, not enough fucks given about your issue if manually modded.

Does Facebook even see appeals or emails sent about my page or personal issue?

Again, bluntly, no. Facebook keeps and sometimes rotates out, one-single appeal email address that lands on someone’s list of things-to-do. The rest of them just reply with automated messages about how they might help, they might not. They won’t.

“Will you see it when I report this post?”

Yes, but go ahead, you might as well add to the problem. I’ll have to remove it too, because I didn’t refrain from cursing but hey, fuck you.

I wish I could answer more questions, but I’m not going to give up the opportunities I have to level the playing field as far as some of the incredulous reasons behind why some good page owners get banned or get their pages removed unjustly. That happens a lot and that’s probably going to get worse before it gets better. It would probably help if some of you would revert back to crying to your mothers instead of to Facebook’s moderation system.

*Edit – Update

I would like to sincerely thank all of the people who have extended kind comments, understanding and their own hands and time to help in any way they can. Because of overwhelming request I would like to offer this. I have created a page on Facebook, added it to the right hand side of the blog so you can Like from there, or just click here. I have made this as a sort of landing page. I am going to make a quick post about this so that anyone that wants to help can certainly feel free to join that page. Thanks again for your great responses to this issue!

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